Of course, I would love to win a bag so I can take it for a test drive. I garden in Iowa zone 5 and have used and purchased perlite and chicken grit. General Discussion: 13: Nov 30, 2017: Would perlite sub for pumice okay? I enjoyed your article and would love to win a bag for my new landscaped succulents. Turkey has nearly 30 000 ha greenhouse area, of which 96% is used for vegetable growing. Succulents are truly mind boggling aren’t they? I have been using Dry Stall for years ever since I read about it in Debra Baldwin’s books. Perlite washes away/around, making it unsuitable for microbial colonization; pumice stone stays put for the most part, making an ideal home for microbes. Turkey has nearly 30 000 ha greenhouse area, of which 96% is used for vegetable growing. Dear friends. It is time! Merrell, we absolutely agree. We actually live in Carlsbad, CA! Pumice – 16.7%. Pumice seems to be a great resource material for our Succulents in containers and in the ground along with other plants that need good drainage without using something not natural or breaks down to fast or floats away. My dad was a pool contractor and did a lot of projects at home in soft- and hardscaping. Haha, well we wish you best of luck! hide. I’d love to try pumice in my succulent containers and to augment the soil in the new succulent bed I started this year. Amen Kathy! However, pumice particles are much larger than perlite and are less likely to blow away in windy regions. I always wondered about pumice and have read where people are using it for potting soil. What a great article! The addition of medium-weight aggregate (pumice or expanded shale) will increase the density and compressive strength. 6 years ago. Pumice is better suited for sandy soils as it increases water-retention to a great extent. Definitely will need to get some pumice. The lightness of pumice also helps keep your pot light while still giving adding aggregate for drainage and aeration. I would like to hear your inputs and pictures of your perlite … what an exciting adventure your dad created for his family. We import premium-quality horticultural pumice stone, perlite, vermiculite and akadama from major suppliers in Indonesia, Turkey, South Africa, and Japan. I do use rice hulls just not like that. We recently replaced our thirsty lawn with drought-tolerant plants. I am fascinated by how I can take a cutting and a new succulent will grow. We would love to get some pumice to you, upon ordering it only takes 3-7 days to ship right to your front door. In this video we look at the soil science of pumice in soil systems. My goal is to use Debra Baldwin’s recipe and then plant waterwise plants and beautiful succulents. I hope it will help the plants not to die because of water sitting. I am just recovering from a heart attack and it is the dormant season here in New England but I look forward to trying your materials in the future. I have a once a week watering schedule and this would be perfect to help air out some of my plants that stay a little moist! I've just received some pumice (2-5mm) and lava rocks (2-5mm) and I was thinking something like this, in equal parts: bark. Fine pumice is also excellent material to use in rooting mixtures - it just "feels right" combined with coir etc, and adds "body". Pumice is volcanic glass with air pockets too, except the air pockets are created naturally as gas escapes the lava as it ascends to the surface. Thanks. FUN! Rachel. Sue, that would be just terrific! Pumice is its own category, honestly, and I’m not just saying that because I sell it! This thread is archived. Yay! We saw an extreme demand for pumice in horticulture, yet no supply for horticulture customers locally because the conditions of the mines before we purchased them. There is no performance drop using pumice. This is especially likely if your soil already contains large amounts of clay or organic material. Can’t wait to try some pumice in my garden. It is time. Both pumice and perlite help improve soil drainage and increase oxygen levels in clay soils. What perfect timing Rebecca! The heat makes it lightweight and porous. In recent years, thanks to writings of several young “masters” pumice has moved at or near the top of popularity. In this video we look at the soil science of pumice in soil systems. I now use a mix of 65% well-draining soil (got some from my local Home Depot), 15% sand, 10% vermiculite, and 10% Co-Co Grow (do a brick at a time, ration slowly into soil mixes). Pumice is the best! Often used in combination with other types of media to create a highly customized media for specific hydroponic applications. Basic garden soil is enough for many plants. The hardness of Pumice is 6 and that of Rhyolite is 6-7. I would definitely like to mix some into our planting beds, if it’s not too late. I have a blood orange tree that needs to be re potted this spring. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I hope I win !!!! Just like people, plants need a balanced diet with beneficial microbes, minerals, and nutrition, and none of our competitive products can offer such things. Wonderful! Now is the time! Pumice! I actually find this unintentional layer of perlite that comes to the top to be beneficial. George Doyle & Ciaran Griffin/Stockbyte/Getty Images. LOL Our bags our typically delivered right to your front door in 3-7 business days from the time you order them! This is very informative; I live in Berkeley and with our clay soils, succulents and Leucadendrons just rot. Kenneth, we couldn’t agree more and we couldn’t be more excited about all these facts! We would use the pumice for planting up our succulents for sale. Pumice! A free bag would be AWESOME!!! Laura, aboslutely! Jill, that is the most frustrating thing right?! 3. Pumice happens naturally in the ground, perlite happens in a factory. I had not considered pumice in my garden, but I would love to start using it in containers especially for my rosemary plants I bring indoors. Properties of rock is another aspect for Rhyolite vs Pumice. In a very large container perlite is a better option. Rachel Gardening with my mother and father in war ridden Syria. Perlite has been weird for me - turns weird color/texture. Sara, Absolutely, many of our customers use it tilled in the soil but also as a top dressing. Our family has been involved in heavy machinery and construction for the last 40 years and one day, seemingly out of nowhere, we heard about 2 pumice mines in California that needed to be reclaimed. Jeanine, since 3 years old? Reactions: rkmcdon. Organic but never breaks down is a great point. Read about vermiculite vs. perlite here. We love pictures of your plants & harvest, discussing growing methods, and helping with grow problems. Your plants need these nutrients to be healthy and thrive, because just like ‘you are what you eat’, your plants can only be as healthy as what they eat, or what you feed them. Basic garden soil is enough for many plants. I would love to win this. We love hearing when people are bold enough to do that! Jan, sounds perfect! from old Monterey Pines that I cut down. Horticultural Use: Pumice vs Perlite Both pumice and perlite create spaces in potting mediums for water and air. I would love to win and try it out in my terracing ànd other places in my garden. All we do is screen it to make it the desired sizes, bag it, and ship it out. Pumice is most likely the answer to making for a wonderful garden! Pumice mining is also is considered a more environmentally friendly mining process compared to other resources. Pumice and perlite are made from the same material but processed in a slightly different way. I think adding pumice to the soil is just the safeguard I need. Perlite lightweight concrete is used in many different applications. PUMICE! The roots must have a continual supply of oxygen, the root-level carbon dioxide must be able to easily leave the root zone, the soil must also be able to retain water and hold nutrients while not drowning your succulents and plants. So, I can keep track of your company !!! So we can have as much pumice delivered to you as often as you need neighbor! lava rocks. When it comes to price, perlite is cheaper than pumice. Perlite, Peat Moss, Coco Coir, and Vermiculite are what most growers default to using in their soils, and though they may have some benefits, in comparison, they’re nothing like our pumice. I used perlite back East because at the time pumice was not available. All monies goes to the students. Both materials are porous and help to boost drainage in soil. I cut water bill over 50%. 11:38 . Pumice Stone. save. They use it for aeration and for covering seed trays. i do as little soil intervention as possible. Back then, it wasn’t all screened perfectly, there were rocks of various sizes and shapes, even small boulders. Pumice and perlite are made from the same material but processed in a slightly different way. The subject of soil and soil mixes has always been a subject of intense interest. At that point we then started pursuing nurseries and the gardening market full time, and absolutely fell in love with the industry. Many gardeners recommend using pumice rather than perlite for tall plants because it weighs more. The perfect culmination of aesthetics and efficacy. Thanks for reading. Both perlite and pumice help to encourage soil drainage and boost oxygen levels in clay soils. Pumice is still light weight, but it is still a rock, so it weighs more than perlite. Pumice is a great ingredient for bonsai soil mixes. How you may ask? Good luck in the giveaway and Merry Christmas! Lastly, pumice will never decompose, so it never needs replacing (unlike Coco Coir and Peat Moss that tends to rot and must be removed.). Richard Drysift Well-Known Member. Although I love succulents, growing them in Florida’s rainy summers can be tricky. whereas types of Pumice are Scoria. Perlite vs. Pumice. Absolutely, 100% YES – Pumice is the most environmentally friendly gardening product you can use! I am a long time Master Gardener and a greenhouse worker and always open and eager to learn and pass my knowledge on to others. Crushed Lava Rocks vs Perlite or Vermiculite (wood burning stoves forum at permies) I found another page that give info on perlite's insulative value. Pumice particles are larger than perlite and less likely to blow away in windy areas. or 50lb. Since perlite is a form of natural glass, it is classified as chemically inert and has a pH of approximately 7. I have an all pot garden that has suffered substantial in the drought and with excessive rain. I’d have to say, the best part of working in the gardening realm is that we now have an abundant love for succulents and have gotten to see some of the coolest most beautiful nurseries in the world! Glad you’ve made the switch to pumice! I had trouble keeping it watered properly this year (and did not want to add those plastic gels to the soil) so I am looking forward to using this porduct here and on all my potted plants and leucadenrons. HigherGroundGardens. Glad our interview was helpful! It would be great to win a bag of pumice. Pumice! Perlite vs. Pumice. Good luck and merry Christmas! I’ve been using perlite, but I’m ready to try pumice. x. The simplest and most effective soil blend we’ve received from our larger clients and in-in home growers is a mixture of half soil and half pumice. I wish you success in your endeavors. I'd like to know how each one compares to the others regarding performance in organic gardening. Freeland & Sabrina Tanner’s Unforgettable Garden, Transforming a side yard from Blah to Beautiful, Mixing flowers with succulents in Debra Lee Baldwin’s garden. I have been in the garden over too many years. My brother and I were never involved in the horticulture world before acquiring the pumice mines. As with perlite, pumice is also used in a variety of other home and beauty products. I just let the pots they are in dry the hell out before starting to dig them out again. I certainly battle with the rain and humidity here in Florida and I will definitely be looking to add more pumice to my “mix”. LOL. As a matter of fact in the past 2 yrs since I aquired it, I have yet to find a garden shop or succulent dealer in all of San Diego that sells them, so I am EXTREMELY careful with it’s care. But I will definitely be trying pumice with my succulents and other parts of my garden. PUMICE! Pumice is not a product seen in our garden shops. So it is working for them, but we’ll be doing some more research on that specific topic along with you! Pumice vs orchid bark? I add more pumice for my succulents and cactus, more bark for sensative aroids, etc. Succulents, produce, and flowers require daily nutrients, just like our bodies. ft. Characteristics of rocks include texture, appearance, color, fracture, streak, hardness etc. I can confirm from my own experiences, over the last two years particularly, that cuttings I put into straight unsifted pumice did not take well, and those in particle sizes from 1/32 to 1/8, or even perlite mixed with coarse builder's sand, have done very well. That is so great! Others need special soil to do their best. We agree! This would be great for outdoor succulents with my clay soil. Our dad, being the entrepreneurial wizard he is, saw them as a great asset so we purchased them, reclaimed, and extensively renovated both mines. The porous nature of pumice is great for water absorption. Originally we started pursuing lightweight concrete and stone companies (because pumice is used as an aggregate), oil absorbent markets, kitty litter companies, because these were the most common and popular markets for it. I can say Perlite Rocks ! When it comes to price, perlite is cheaper than pumice. Properties of rock is another aspect for Pumice vs Rhyolite. Thank you for the opportunity! It really has helped out my Haworthia collection from what I was using. Yay for pumice! Perlite and pumice are substances that are derived from molten lava. I would love to try your pumice!” Thaks. I would sift through the bags and piles for specimens to keep in my collections. Pumice as a soil amendment is incredibly valuable. Any words of wisdom would be greatly appreciated. Faith, isn’t it amazing how many uses it has other than scrubbing your bunions?! Unfortunately, Don, this particular product isn’t quite yet – but I’ve head they’re working on it! I now realize the need for pumice instead of perlite & intend to use it. You can mix perlite and vermiculite in a 50-50 ratio (or any other ratio you desire) to get a combination that retains more water than pure perlite, but less water than pure vermiculite. Perlite vs Pumice – Similarities and Difference Discussed These are perhaps some of the most common natural rocks that seem to be sought-after the world over. can i sprinkle the pumice around the plants or does it have to be tilled into the soil, under the wood chips? Perlite vs Pumice vs BioChar. Rhyolite vs Pumice Characteristics. I do have some succulents and hope to redesign everything by converting to drip lines and primarily native plants. I recently purchased several bags of this pumice and am truly amazed at how much better it is from ANY other pumice I have bought on the web! Pumice is heavier, bit a better aerator IMO. Pat, thank YOU for your support and for reading our interview! I also plan on using it in my 4 greenhouses ………….. Pumice is a type of stone with plenty of holes in it – similar to pumice, and suitable as an alternative. Pumice particles are larger than perlite and less likely to blow away in windy areas. Pumice is an all-natural,100% ORGANIC growing medium that provides an ideal balance of moisture retention, gas exchange, and draining capabilities. This sounds like a potential alternative. I do appreciate perlite's ability to lighten the weight of a container. Perlite is cheap enough, but not nearly as cheap as rice hulls and I read a link on this forum that lead to a Perdue university side by side on vermiculite vs. rice hulls. Great article, thanks for the info. Does Perlite Break Down? That’s my brother and I’s goal as well! Pumice vs. Perlite. What a wonderful, informative post. Plus, he would bring materials home from job sites. Perlite is mined and expanded all over the world. I do use the other products you listed but have to replace then all the time. I would very much like to win a bag. Good luck in the giveaway and Merry Christmas! Perlite Concrete Offers Many Advantages Beyond Its Light Weight. I am about to mix my no till soil but some of the recipes say to use pumice. Perlite and pumice are substances that are derived from molten lava. Comparing Perlite vs Pumice. Good luck in the giveaway and Merry Christmas! I was planning on trying it this summer. We are focusing on ground cover and succulents this year – yes, ground cover and sedum are growing even in aquaponics! Name: Glenn Graham Memphis (Zone 7b) BBQNBLUES Aug 16, 2018 3:19 PM CST. I also use pure pumice to root succulent cuttings. In fact, these industries actually use much more pumice than the horticulture and agriculture industries. The process begins with mining then it is crashed before being heated. Once you try pumice, you’ll be hooked! Thank you for your kind words, we think that would be great Neysa! Out of all the industries we’ve pursued since owning the mines the horticulture industry has by far been the most fun – the people are wonderful, warm and kind and genuinely love our product. My husband and I have finally found a hobby we both love to do together! If so can I use growstone instead. We think so too! What essentially started our debut in the gardening world or “attracted” us to the pumice business in general was actually the mining portion of pumice. Our pumice has been scientifically tested and proven to have over 70 different trace vitamins and minerals, that help detoxify and vitalize your plants. pumice. We do that with a lot of our personal plants at home and love it! Thanks for reading! Pumice is excellent stuff, a standard constituent of potting mixes in many Italian nurseries, and much nicer to work with than perlite. i have a garden full of succulents, proteas, palms and… wood chips. I was recently introduced to the dynamic brother/sister team, Lexi and Austin Petelski, who own General Pumice Products. My plants all need new soil made up, so I will use pumice in all my replanting. Like pumice and perlite, Turface in a pot is impossible to overwater. That’s what we try to emphasize to our customers the most, Perlite may be less costly however it rises almost immediately when you water your soil thoroughly, and then you have to replace it consistently. I was reading about pumice a lot recently and it looks interesting product. Merry Christmas !!!! The pumice sounds like a great product for amending the soil. Okay, I’m quite intrigued by this product. Dedicated to the cultivation of cannabis. After quite a bit of researching however, we found article after article on how pumice seems to be the healthiest and supreme soil amendment/conditioner on the market for serious gardeners. Translation: pumice has lots of holes that help it to retain air, water, and nutrients. Pumice would help prevent root rot and extend the life of these Lovely Little Plants! I would love to use pumice to amend my succulent soil. I live in central Florida and while temperatures allow me to grow many succulents in the ground, sufficient drainage is always a concern. It’s a mineral that is heated until it expands into pebbles. ~ Facebook will NOT let me “LIKE” your page but DOES let me sign up for notifications [all] and events !!! This is the comparison between the Organic vs Perlite However, I got to admit the picture do not do too much justice to the Organic Soil. The perlite comes to the top as it is less dense than dirt. I found a lovely hoya pubicalyx and I want to do everything I can to keep it alive. I would love to try it, I only tried perlite before, and I would love to make my own succulent mix. Though some rocks look identical, they have certain characteristics which distinguish them from others. To clean the cages! ) came here to say though how much am... 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